Episode 166: Seeing the Invisible World With Ryan Gertz

“Invisible World” Mixed media collage by Barbara Fisher. 2026

Ryan Gertz emailed me a while back and we started talking about his experiences with humanoid beings he has seen soon after doing ceremonial work or healing work. Some of his descriptions matched what I have experienced and the experiences of others who I haven’t talked about, so I had to have him on the show.

When I see uncommon descriptions repeat among people who don’t know each other, my metaphorical ears perk up, because there is a pattern of experience that isn’t written about in books. It shows that the communications humans have with non-human intelligences continue to share unknown commonalities which is another data point in our quest to understand what it is we are experiencing.

In this episode we share a lot of different experiences across time, set and setting. Intentionality seems to be key in trying to cultivate these interactions with NHI and we talk about how what we learn can be of service to others.

Enjoy!