Episode 123: Betwixt and Between: Liminality With Tom

“Stella Maris” Digital Art by Barbara Fisher, 2023

Before I started this podcast, I had been researching and studying high strangeness cases for decades, primarily as a means to understand my own weird experiences. I just didn’t talk about those experiences much publicly, because, well—I had my sanity called into question because of those experiences during a child custody case, so I learned to keep my mouth shut.

But when I came to Athens, I met a group of people who all had strange things happen to them and around them. And we went on to have a lot of strange things happen around us in groups, and so we took to gathering and talking about what we had experienced and try to formulate the hows and whys and the meanings of it all. We’d have dinner and sit around the patio, deck, porch or living room long into the night to try and figure out what it all meant.

That’s where Tom comes in. He’s one of the first people we met in Athens, and has long been my brother in our Athens Family. He has degrees in Anthropology and Sociology and has done work in Archaeology as well. He teaches as a adjunct professor, and came to visit this weekend, so I told him he was going to record an episode with me.

He agreed, and here it is—we talk all about liminality—what it is, what it means, and how it can be viewed in the context of humans, non-humans, spirits, environments, seasons, times of day, and social structures. Lots of deep weird in here.

I hope you enjoy hearing two old friends talking about stuff we like to talk about!